thanks bensam for yet another pointer should i include g. halls selections in those.

on the 20/1 what is the name of the horse that did not qualify.

Barney,

G. Hall's are worthy in my opinion and if I understand you correctly there was no other horse on the 20/1.

hope this helps

Hello Barney,

Your a better form reader than I. I thought that all but 4 were no's and 3 of those had a moderate chance. However I still give a very small chance to the no's. I thought Tuska Ridge was the danger.

All the best
hedgehog

bensam "on the 20/1,of the two horses only 1 qualifys, gaffer w 3/1".

hedgehog the only danger came 2nd.

Barney

Ballyfin Lake, in the 2.00.

(Incidentally, in case anyone is having difficulty in tracking Bensam's "Lady of Verona", the horse VDW identified as a "good thing" on 20/1/79 was actually Love from Verona, in the 2.30.)

Hello Barney,
Can I ask how did you know I'vehadit would make the distance? Did you all for that in your 4-6?

All the best
hedgehog

Barney,

The answer to your question is I don't know as I didn't need to look it up. You don't need the form of Uther Pendragon's race either.

Just in case anyone thinks I am going to start handing out free answers, I am not. The reason for this intervention was to stop people rushing out and buying formbooks or other items that aren't necessary. You may find, as others have (although some don't know it yet), that after studying the early examples and reading the letters, the methods are not for you, in which case you would have spent alot of money for nothing. It's up to you to do the work in order to appreciate the true worth of the methods and it does take effort in finding the answers but if former experience is anything to go by, not many will.

Regards

are the haig annuals any use

There have been a few posts recently that have confirmed to me that some who may at first have appeared to understand some of what VDW shared in fact have misunderstood or misread a fair amount, and in turn may be misguiding others.

Those who are serious need to sort out the wheat from the chaff and follow their instincts. Any formbooks will suffice, be they Haig or Raceform.

To conclude, remember that you’ll only get out what you put in; and in this case it’s a lot of hard work. Good luck to all.

Barney,

The Haig books are the forerunners to the Superform annuals but in that era they did not contain actual form, so I'm afraid they would be of little use, rather like Timeform racehorses of .. etc.
I'm not sure of the date they switched to 'form book' format but if you give Browzers a ring then they will tell you.

Cheers

you any where near oxford?

tubs

I wonder if any kind soul out there with the 1978 flat form book would be able to post me a brief summary of the 2YO form for SON OF LOVE, the winner of the 1979 St Leger. Another VDW 'good thing' I am having a little difficulty in unravelling.

Thanks in anticipation.

Crock
cliffy*rock222.freeserve.co.uk
(replace * with @)

Having taken Marchwood to task for his errors re Rifle Brigade, reflecting on Reference Point's recent post I must now hold my hands up to a howler of my own.

In my post of 5.45pm on 5/1/02, I gave Little Nugget as an example. Little Nugget was a winner mentioned by VDW in his letter of 1/6/78 as an example to ponder, but not as one of his selections as I wrongly stated.

crock? you sure its the right year?

tubs

tubs
i'm near manchester unfortunately

Reference point
i am here thinking did i appear to understand and am i now misleading others.to tell people who is on the wrong track and who you think are misleading people is not spelling it out. name names.

crock thanks for that but ive bought them anyway now if they are no good i will just have to have another look round

Tubs,

Thanks for checking. Yes, I do have the right year but it would appear that Son Of Love's only 2yo race was run in France after the completion of our season (20/11/78), thus it is race number 1 in the 1979 annual and there is no race listed in the 1978 form book.

Thanks again for checking.

Cheers

Barney,
I agree. Reference Point should say who he thinks is on the wrong track. In my opinion there are many tracks intertwined, because no one race is identical to another, however speed in class, preferably more than once, is an important factor to me as I have said more then once before,
Yours
Swish

hedgehog what is your e-mail

swish the more i read the more your right

Dear Barney,
there are 2 horse that have recently obtained speed in class in this race. CARBURY CROSS and SUPREME CHARM,my personal preference is for CC, may dutch, do not know yet,
Yours
Swish

hi swish

ive not done the whole race just looked at your 2

sc origionaly sent out at 35f(stayer??)sent out twice at short dist to inc spd,sent up in dist and won,now dropped down in dist again with more weight
cc consistant at dist down in class 4lb ex spd at dist did same last year then popped up and won after lay off.
probability
sc 115
cc 121

then when you do that your blown out of the water