9 dec

more - Swish stuff

Hunt

1.30 - candarli - L
2.00 - Stack the pack - L
3.00 - Just Jimbo - 2nd 16/1

Lud

2.10 - Castanet - L
2.40 - Wild Spice - L


Taunt

2.20 - Baloo - L
2.50 - Smart Design - L
3.20 - The Gene Genie - L


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Swish -

What do you think about moving 1 place - "either way " - just to keep them within the 1st 6 in the "betting Forecast ??

If we had moved "up" when in the top quarter - and "down" when in the bottem quarter - we would have got -

L - 12/1 - L - 5/1 - L - 4/1 - 15/2 - L

I think !

co-incidence ?

maybe I'l put up the "alternatives" as well -

any thoughts ?

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more - Total Bollocks" - to "place"


Hunt

12.30 - Oulton Broad - L
1.00 - Ballys Back - L
1.30 - Sharmy - L
2.00 - Jollyshau - 1st - 12/1
2.30 - County Classic - L
3.00 - Runner Bean - L
3.30 - NH Flat

Lud

12.40 - Caper - L
1.10 - Scotch Corner - 2nd - 6/1
1.40 - Tonic du Charmil - L
2.10 - Senna da Silva - L
2.40 - Wild Spice - L
3.10 - The Glen - L
3.40 - NH Flat

Taun

12.50 - Say What you See - 1st - 2/1
1.20 - Karakum - L
1.50 - Supreme Piper - L
2.20 - Lord Nellson - L
2.50 - Bill Owen - 1st - 15/2
3.20 - Teorban - 2nd - 11/1


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if the price holds up - then Lord Nellson looks a "value" EW bet - "NOT" !



I think that seanrua has the answer - where he indicates the price at which it is worth taking the place bet - below which is not good enough to recover previos losses .

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Todays results above !

Hi TC,

I feel this selection method would be profitable if you stop at the first return - 2nd bet today , I think.

OK, Stop AT a Winner is generally frowned upon, and today you'd have missed out on your 12/1 winner, but I think records will show that being content with a daily profit ( not always achievable, btw) cuts out a lot of the long losing runs.

With the " no less than 3 on Betfair place market" cut-out, you may decide to bet "win only" on those shorties like that 2/1 winner, or, leave it out, and wait for one at your price.

Thanks Seanrua -

Appreciate you "Long Term Wisdom"

I titled my selections - "total bollocks" - and of course - at the moment - so they are -

They are just "Unfiltered" picks from a system that I think - shows promise - they have so far covered "every race" - which of course is "Silly"

From tommorow I shall start to put up - Fewer selections - Having applied some "Filters" -

Pointless at the moment - suggesting what they are as they may or may not work !

However if they do , then I will "Put them Up"

First - the Swish thing

Chel

1.10 - Majestic - L

1.45 - Un Jour a Vassey - 3rd 8/1

2.20 - Nathos - L

2.55 - Lord Noeli - L

3.30 - Banker Count - 3rd 8/1


Don

12.25 - Percipent - L

2.45 - Lauderdale - L



Wolves

12.50 - Sea the World - L

1.25 - Miss Tolerance - L

3.05 - Atlantic Quest - L

4.10 - Creskeld - L

4.40 - Indalo Grey - L

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alts - finding the 1st 6 in the betting


Chel

1.10 - The Dark Lord - L

1.45 - Un Jour a Vassey - 3rd 8/1

2.20 - Majic Mistress - L

2.55 - The Real Bandit - 1st 13/2

3.30 - Banker Count - 3rd - 8/1


Don

12.25 - Percipent - L

2.45 - Lauderdale - L



Wolves

12.50 - Best Lead - L

1.25 - Miss Tolerance - L

3.05 - Atlantic Quest - L

4.10 - Creskeld - L

4.40 - Jaderon - 1st 11/1


The filter does tend to put a bias towats the top end of the weights


It has however produced a 13/2 winner and an 11/1 winner

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Filtered "bollocks" - for a place


Chelt

1.45 - French Executive - 2nd 9/2

2.20 - King Revo - 1st 9/2

2.55 - Double Honour - L

3.30 - Curtens Hill - L


Donc

12.25 - Dark Society - L

1.00 - Travello - NR

1.35 - A Bit of Fun - 1st 5/2

2.45 - Lauderdale - L


That gives 3 winning bets on the trot - then a loosing run of 3

Why say that ? - I am wondering if a Dawson staking plan is viable ? - (Don't mention that to Gummy )

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Quick w50/1?

Your fidding

Whoops,Yet anither mistake.And another,Oh dear.Well done if you backed it.A top of the range canoe might be in order.

This mornings posts have been updated to show the results.

Note that the filter on the Swish thing has captured a couple of very nice winners !

The Swish thing

Ch

12.55 Log on Intersky - L

2.40 - Thisthatandtother - 2nd 7/2


Don

1.45 - Doce Vida - 1st 15/2

2.20 - Juralan - L

2.55 - Rosie Redman - L

3.30 - October Mist - L


Ling

12.45 - Mamideos - 1st 7/1

1.20 - Ken Scott - 1st 5/1

3.05 - Broadbrook Lass - 2nd 9/2


Sout

11.30 - Sparkup - L

12.30 - Spence Appeal - L

1.40 - Beady - L

2.45 - Anuvastee - L

3.20 - Headland - L


no filters needed - all are within the 1st 6 in the betting forcast

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Since I have had - "Bugger All " responce to my Postings of the "Selections" -

Proposed by the " System" - that Swish and his sadly deceased "Friend" have suggested -

I will stop - "Putting them up " !!

I - "Understand" the "frustration" that - Swish - frequently expresses - at the lack of "Responce" - to his -

"Very Knowlegable Posts " !!!!!!!!!!

sorry Swish

It didn't work - AGAIN !!!

If you havn't worked out the "System" - them sorry -

You just don't have the same "IQ" as Swish -

Oi! Are you suggesting VDW is primarilly comprehensible to thickies? Hidden factors an' all??

T.C
What did you expect afterall it is "Total bollocks" your quote not mine.Nevertheless very apt.

investor -

you have an "UNBEIEVABLE" incapacity to read the "Written Word"

IN "Parrallel" to my "Total Bollocks " selections -

I Have been putting up the selections that Swish Proposed - and - it is "these Selections" that I am now going to stop posting !!!


In contrast !!!!!


I am going to try and turn my "Total Bollocks" selections -

into the "Absolute - "Dogs Bollocks"" " !!!

-

Try Posting a "Bloody Selection" -

You couldn't do so - to "Save your Life "


"IQ" - wots that sir ???

tc


If your are "unable" - to read, my Posts - or Seanruas - "Correctly" -

Then what "Bloody Chance" have you - of reading - "VDWs" !!!

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epi -

no Swishes idea had absolutly - nowt - to do with VDW - I think it was based on the bias towards the "Top Quarter of the Handicap" - something I think you have looked at !

TC: Swish's thinking was based on reality, class is a nebulous concept and accordingly too insubstantial a foundation for either method or system.