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Jolly Swagman
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Posted December 17, 2005 02:01 PM Hide Post
Good day for the odds on fav backers - Fig Flyer just gone in at Lingfield.

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At a bigger price - I fancy Fromsong in the 3.00 - currently 6s

Egan is 44% with Ivory at Lingfield and he has a decent draw today.

Tell me I'm wrong , but I recon that you are being offered 6/1 for what is better than a 2/1 shot.

tc
 
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Jolly Swagman
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Posted December 17, 2005 03:08 PM Hide Post
2nd @ 9/1

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The Vital Spark
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Posted December 17, 2005 08:11 PM Hide Post
Nothing for tomorrow.
 
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Posted December 17, 2005 10:54 PM Hide Post
I havent looked yet myself John but hey sometimes i would`nt give a feck one way or the other.
 
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Posted December 18, 2005 11:10 AM Hide Post
JiB:
Have you got distance stats based on the sire for Cheeky Chi in the 3:30 at Southwell?
 
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Posted December 18, 2005 01:35 PM Hide Post
At 1.38 Masafi 150M might not be a bad lay as the ratings are hardly overwhelming.

EpiG,

Desert Style one source:

5f 13%
6f 7%
7f 9%
8f 8%
9f 2% (2-68)
10f 12% (8-62)
11f 7% (1-14)
12f 7% (3-41)
14f 0% (0-3)
16f 0% (0-4)
>16f 0% (0-0)
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Sire 2YR Win Average 6.1
Sire 3YR Win Average 7.4

Another source:

Juveniles
Year 2002: 1-29 3% £0.17 2003: 10-82 12% -£0.24 2004: 12-133 9% -£0.15 2005: 2-17 12% -£0.75
Dist 5F: 14-104 13% -£0.07 6F: 8-110 7% -£0.50 7-8F: 9-110 8% -£0.11 9F+: 1-5 20% £1.20
Going Fast: 15-131 11% -£0.06 GD/GS: 7-90 8% -£0.32 Sft/Hvy: 1-36 3% -£0.64 AW: 9-72 12% -£0.12
Time of Year Apr-May: 7-49 14% £0.05 Jun-Aug: 14-146 10% -£0.31 Sep-Nov: 9-109 8% -£0.18 Dec-Mar: 2-25 8% -£0.24
AW Ling: 1-19 5% -£0.79 Sthw: 4-34 12% £0.20 Wolve: 4-19 21% -£0.02 All: 9-72 12% -£0.12
Non-Juveniles
Year 2002: 6-109 6% -£0.45 2003: 7-104 7% -£0.28 2004: 18-287 6% -£0.49 2005: 11-189 6% -£0.29
Dist 5-6F: 15-96 16% £0.63 7-9F: 6-160 4% -£0.71 10-13F: 21-329 6% -£0.38 14F+: 11-177 6% -£0.51
Going Fast: 25-291 9% -£0.30 GD/GS: 10-193 5% -£0.53 Sft/Hvy: 3-72 4% -£0.60 AW: 15-206 7% -£0.17
Time of Year Apr-May: 8-212 4% -£0.60 Jun-Aug: 23-285 8% -£0.37 Sep-Nov: 6-115 5% -£0.53 Dec-Mar: 16-150 11% £0.17
AW Ling: 9-86 10% £0.10 Sthw: 3-43 7% £0.12 Wolve: 3-77 4% -£0.62 All: 15-206 7% -£0.17
Track Direction L-H: 6-93 6% -£0.52 R-H: 3-33 9% -£0.56

However both sources are probably a bit out of date but as the sire is well tried any differences should only be minor ones.

Another point to consider is that as the horse only cost £4k it probably doesnt resemble its brothers and sisters v much so one has to question the relevance of the stats in these cases.

This message has been edited. Last edited by: john in brasil, December 18, 2005 01:43 PM
 
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Thanks. Interesting point in the final sentence.
 
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The Vital Spark
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Posted December 18, 2005 07:36 PM Hide Post
Chilling Place 155D is a qualifier.
 
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Jolly Swagman
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Posted December 19, 2005 02:08 PM Hide Post
Frown

Its that man again !!

Constantly underestimated - just cos he comes from - Oop North !!

tc
 
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The Vital Spark
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Posted December 19, 2005 06:21 PM Hide Post
Frown More superglue needed!
 
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Posted December 19, 2005 07:00 PM Hide Post
Nothing for tomorrow.
 
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Posted December 20, 2005 07:09 PM Hide Post
JiB:
Anything amusing from over there? I guess now it's exclusive they've all opened up and secret factors are being swapped like bubble gum cards.
 
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The Vital Spark
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Posted December 20, 2005 08:12 PM Hide Post
No, its gone v quiet. There was only one post today. By investor who aftertimed a 9/2 winner at Southwell by half an hour!
 
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Posted December 21, 2005 02:30 AM Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by Tuppenycat:
quote:
It should be clear from the above that there can only be one class/form horse in any race,


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Not so , and I hope that johnd will clarify !!

tc


Tc

While there can be a number of form horses in a race, there can only, logically, be one 'best horse'.

Rab
Hi Johnd
Are you saying if you get the correct class/form horse in the race you will get most of the winners?
Only 'given certain other factors', which isn't nearly as often as your question implies. Smile
 
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JiB:
Thanks. I guess the amusement value of Investor aftertiming palled some time ago.
 
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IMP
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Posted December 21, 2005 05:04 PM Hide Post
quote:
ask the bus driver


post on another board about horses not winning races, it's the trainer &/or jockey!

click here


cheers IMP
 
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Posted December 21, 2005 05:59 PM Hide Post
Yes, that's been a good board, Imp.

Several of the guys can be found elsewhere too.

I hadn't realised that you were
" I'm a Mug Punter".

That bitp is good too!
 
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IMP
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Posted December 21, 2005 08:55 PM Hide Post
Yep thats me.

I started on here as
imamugpunter
but someone moaned that 5 syllables was too many for a board ID so I shortened it to
imp
Ima
Mug
Punter

not because I have an impish sense of humour! Fish

I'm really quite a boring lazy procrastinating old grump Violin


cheers IMP
 
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Posted December 21, 2005 09:43 PM Hide Post
Imp as far as im concerned your one of the best m8.
 
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The Vital Spark
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Posted December 21, 2005 10:03 PM Hide Post
Up Above 1230A has been placed to win.
 
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