Nessie
3.50 perth the 3 for attention are
Galway Breeze
Polyphon
Found Gold

4.00 ponte
Adaikali
Go Tech
Masafi

I'll leave you to sort the wheat from the chaf.

Masafi - 4.00 Pont - dont know - but I think this is his real Target -

2 Oct 2004 3:20 (Five Day) at NEWMARKET, totesport Cambridgeshire (Heritage Handicap)


Wouldn't suprise me if he "Got into Trouble " today !



tc

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In the 4:00 at Pontefract, Parkview Love looks the most interesting.

And in the 3:50 at Perth, Friedhelmo.

Got this vdw sussed
1st james caid 7/1
2nd gotech 3/1

LOL

ps thanks investor; but what was your reasons for your selections?

Nessie
They were consistent,So was jeffertiti but i got my maths wrong.Having said that,I didn't play in either of the races.

Investor What maths did you get wrong?

-2P2 = CONSISTENT?

jib,
you said the trainer couldnt get his hcap mark down by running in ireland,but it did come down 4lb while it was racing there,i agree it was probably for his poor runs before ireland,but i think the handicapper must take a view of foreign races.
otherwise how would foreign horses have a handicap mark when running in this country,eg,barney curley gets a lot of german imports,they must view the races to give them a mark?

Go Tech a vdw (c/f) horse? Last win two years and 17 runs ago, 6 losing attempts at the dist, win prize money 10k from two wins, CR = 13 (-742).

You ve taken leave of your senses Investor!

Greg,

The last time I enquired I was assured that ONLY UK races were used in calculating a horses OR.

I shall email the OH to see if there has been a policy change.

A foreign horse can be entered for top class UK non hcps, there is no need for an OR, only the entry fee. After a win or three losing runs the foreign horse will aquire a BHB OR and then be eligible for UK hcps as well.

barney curley
kalou
1st run in the uk,ran in a class d hcap given an official rating of 74?

Jib
I'm glad you put that 2p2,And this is where people get into trouble with vdw,The horse was one of the probables not neccesarily from the 3 most cons,But the horse had CONSISTENT FORM the way vdw saw things,But unfortunately john you don't have the writings or the form books so you will never understand the reasoning behind it.I didn't play in either race but the winners of both the races would have been trapped.

investor why do you put after every post? and how come you didnt trap the winner in your post

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3.50 perth the 3 for attention are
Galway Breeze
Polyphon
Found Gold

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or was that were you got the maths wrong? please advise me?

Nessie
I usually put but i felt like Yes Nessie that's where i got my maths wrong. I don't want to piss you off so iv'e put them all up.

not pissed off LOL

Thanks.


So what do you make of this lot?

3:05, 10 run - ASCOT 24 Sep 2004
Princess Royal John Doyle Stakes (Group 3) (Fillies & Mares) (A1) (3yo+) Winner £29;000.00 

1m4f GD-FM

2(10) 2810 Beneventa 48   J L Dunlop  4 9-3 R Hughes  PM125 *2810
3(6) 1-31 My Renee 53   M J Grassick  4 9-0 N G McCullagh  PM122 * *131
8(4) 1542 Hidden Hope 48  G Wragg  3 8-6 T E Durcan  PM120 *1542
5(2) 2636 Summitville 33   J G Given  4 9-0 D Holland  PM118
10(1) 2-1 Poise 53  Sir Michael Stoute  3 8-6 Non-Runner  PM118 * *21
6(5) 2233 Bowstring 16  J H M Gosden  3 8-6 J Fortune  PM117 *2233
9(3) 2322 Mazuna 16  C E Brittain  3 8-6 R L Moore  PM117 * *2322
4(7) 6321 Polar Jem 9  G G Margarson  4 9-0 A McCarthy  PM115 * *6321
1(8) 2117 Astrocharm 16   M H Tompkins  5 9-3 L Dettori  PM113 * *2117

7(9) -417 Castagna 36  H R A Cecil  3 8-6 W Ryan  PM97 *417

Betting Forecast (3:05, 10 run - ASCOT 24 Sep 2004)
3/1 Hidden Hope (25%)
4/1 Beneventa (45%)
5/1 My Renee (61.67%)
6/1 Bowstring (75.96%)
6/1 Polar Jem (90.25%)
8/1 Mazuna (101.36%)
8/1 Summitville (112.47%)
10/1 Astrocharm (121.56%)
 
33/1 Castagna (124.5%)

Spurting life says

 Betting Forecast: (3:05 Ascot Friday 24 September)
7/2 Hidden Hope (22.22%)
9/2 Beneventa (40.4%)
5/1 Astrocharm (57.07%)
6/1 My Renee (71.36%)
13/2 Bowstring (84.69%)
7/1 Polar Jem (97.19%)
8/1 Mazuna (108.3%)
10/1 others. (117.39%) 

I would dutch
1-31 My Renee
1542 Hidden Hope
6321 Polar Jem
(but I wont!)

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Nessie
I won't be looking at the racing for tomorrow,Until tomorrow,Never do.I'm too busy trying to unravel more of this puzzle.Never ending really.

Investor.The thing I have learned is the old sayig of 'money talks bullsh!t walks" so its 'watching the markets' for me.

Nessie
Watch them like a hawk mate,They'll stand you in good stead for future races.

Go on then i`ll ask, how do you use previous markets to support your theory of vdw Investor?.