well done to everyone who backed kyllachy

Barney,

The well done`s are appreciated but it looks as though `K` wasn`t a bet using the methodolgy ?

Cheers,

"After what Kyllachy did at Sandown it was obvious that there wasnt a horse alive that could match him." Steady John, easy now!
regards,

This board has lost its appeal for me.

If anyone wants to get to the bottom of vdw listen to guest and chaz, nobody else knows the full depth of the methods although they may be very efficient at scratching the surface.

good luck to everyone whether they like vdw or not

Statajack, name one horse in activity that can accelerate that like at the end of a 5f dash. At Sandown Kyllachy wasnt coming through beaten horses in a 12f affair, he greased past some of the best sprinters in the land as they were flat out.And there is only one word for that: CLASS.

Barney, please reconsider! your contributions to the board are much appreciated, youve been here for a long time now, so why leave, im sure the guys in question didn`t mean too much harm although some of the words were a bit strong.

JIB

Regarding the VDW methodology

Are you sceptical

Agreed John, that performance was at the back of my mind when I backed him at Ascot where on paper and following the vdw methodology, he also looked a good thing to me. I thought he might have won then with a bit of luck in running. However, again following the methodology he didnt look to have as good credentials today in what was a higher class race. Vdw works on a slightly different principle to normal form study so to operate it sometimes means ignoring what some might see as the bleedin' obvious. Swings and roundabouts maybe but ultimately worth it I hope. Incidentally, I am going to do a post a bit later on concerning this race and vdw methodology which might be interesting, because as per Determined's earlier post, I wonder what people would have made of this race without using the ability ratings?
regards,

The Pieman says this board has lost it`s appeal for him.

Well what a co-incidence as more and more of the faithfull find no appeal in him.

He can`t even give his pies away now.

Sorry, I nearly forgot, bye-bye Pieman.

hi,
Once the class/form horses are isolated why should we bet some & not others?.

Barney,

I totally agree that Guest and Chaz know the time of day with regards VDW and I wish I had their profits in my betting bank.

I don`t think I`ll ever have the time to bottom this methodology but I`ll continue to work at it for now.

Should you decide to concentrate your efforts to winner finding elsewhere then the very best of luck.

I personally from our e - mails fully appreciate you know more about racing them some I do not care to waste time mentioning.

You`ve got my e - mail address.

Good luck but I`ve a feeling you won`t be too far away,

Cheers,

Hopefully one of the experts will comment.

This thread is now 194 pages long and I believe all the answers are there. Its just a case of having the time to read, re- read, then read again and if you`re like still make basic mistakes.

Its along road but one worth taking ( I think ! ),

Cheers,

JIB

Post 165

Hell fire

I cant compete with a post like that

After all I am one of those people in the area where there isnt intellegent life, according to people South of Watford

Jesus!
the Bible
try pulling their book of past events to pieces

Couldnt you have just said Yes

All is not what it seems.

VDW – a place to start ?

I have listed below what I believe were considered good things by some of the experts using this methodology.

For any relative newcomers to the thread studying these races maybe a useful place to start.

For what its worth I will be having another look myself primarily to see how many were top on the ability rating.

18/05/02 Noverre lost
18/06/02 Rock Of Gibraltar won 4/5
09/07/02 Feet So Fast won 7/2
Millenary won 5/2
26/07/02 Repertory won 7/2
27/07/02 Grandera lost
02/08/02 Nayyir won 9/2
03/08/02 Prompt Payment won 6/4
Scotts View won 6/5
10/08/02 Feet So Fast won 6/4
16/08/02 Systematic won 4/11
17/08/02 Reel Buddy won 7/2
Fayr Jag lost
Mubtaker won 11/8
18/08/02 Alasha won 4/6
20/08/02 Bandari won 4/5.


Cheers,

Determined,
Further to that, you might want to have a quick check to see which ones were in the first 3 for consistency in their races.
regards,

Determined


Re: Ability/Class ratings

Righthand Man 33
Lucky Vane 30
Planetman 17
Kumbi 11

Could you honestly (hand on heart) say that

300 quid makes all that much difference when using class or abilty ratings.
I.e strong enough to form part of a structure to determine (no pun intended)the outcome of a horse race?

Even if it is only a basic rating to be used with other factors?