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I steer clear of jump racing generally, nowadays, Tuppenycat, so I can't comment.
Here, though, is MY idea of the VDW selection for tomorrow: 345 York, In The Dark. Now, that's torn it! My own bet tomorrow may well be a Stoute/Fallon runner at York, but no VDW punter in the world would touch it - thank ****! Let them stick to the difficult stuff. I'll try an easier route to profit. |
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Mtoto
You will never learn, will you? The majority on this thread dont want to hear that old pony of read the booklets, buy the formbooks, spend 20 years contemplating your navel, etc. God knows, this thread is full of the past muses of you and your cronies, and it would seem that your breakaway thread is no different. People are interested in VDW for the same reason they are interested in horse racing, they want to make money out of it. If you have ideas to help them, put them up, If you think you know the winner before the race put it up. This tired old tosh of telling them that there are answers, but they will have to find them themselves,is bollocks, and serves no purpose but to bring ridicule on this thread and its members. Thankfully, Fulham has gone; the last thing this thread needs is his bastard son! |
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Greg -
now I have to - "Realy Realy" - admit to a failing,- in an area of my betting knowledge !! you talk of a horse being 12lb "Clear" on the Ratings. I assume from this that - You are saying that - the horse is carrying 12lb "Less" than the weight - that - It should be carrying ! - according to the Handicapper. - ?? How do you decide this ?? - is there a publication that will show this ??? "Pig Ignorant" - on this subject !! Help Please !! tc This message has been edited. Last edited by: Tuppenycat, |
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johnd -
"YUP" !!! |
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TC.
"Anyone who post race - puts up similar VDW claims for a horse, will suffer the same fate from the sceptics on the thread and deservedly so"!! Does this also apply to vdw's selections in the books?????? ![]() Like some others that visit this thread you also want something for nothing, and are just totaly frustrated. I repeat an earlier statement, There are some excellent examples of pure vdw on this thread, if one cares to look. It does not matter if they were put up pre or post race, the form book will not change during the race. |
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T.c
yes it is aftertiming i was going to mention that one (so bloody obvious ) But i was frightened of getting my f.....g head screwed off.Practice what you preach springs to mind. ![]() |
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Not g hall: Point out the examples.
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f**all
yes it does - they are - past their "sell by date" - lets have some current examples !! if you don't get your posts in order then some very old fashioned austrailian - (yes Thats my spelling) - "expresions" are going to come your way !! investor - ![]() This message has been edited. Last edited by: Tuppenycat, |
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Jolly Swagman Member ![]() |
Thats interesting - my post got "Censored" !!
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T.C
Gladly after you have posted yours up.Minus massey ratings and all that bollocks. |
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Jolly Swagman Member ![]() |
Investor - I post mine up - complete with "All the "Shit" - which I use to find an edge !
You want me to take out my "Shit" - but - want to - reserve the right to retain all of your own - post race - selective "Shit" from VDW ! Do you want to put me at a disadvantage ?? When are we going to see a selection from you ??? This message has been edited. Last edited by: Tuppenycat, |
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Jolly Swagman Member ![]() |
I havn't got - the "old" formbooks - but then - for the lack of £20 - neither have you got access to the Gummy info ! - or indeed "Massey"
That puts us on "equal terms" !! I don't complain about the former - why should you complain about the latter !! This message has been edited. Last edited by: Tuppenycat, |
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TC,
You asked about a horse being well in . Audiostreetdotcom 230NA is a good example. The race is a seller but if it was a hcp he would be clear top weight, his nearest rival would be carrying 8lbs less if that was the case. Interestingly he is a CD winner, though with another trainer. Hes never won off this current mark so hes been well placed considering the quality of the opposition. The fc 5/2 looks a fair bet. |
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Jolly Swagman Member ![]() |
Thanks JIB
I thought tho' - that greg had talked about horses in handicaps - being - well clear - and thats what floored me ! How - or can - a horse be - "Well Clear" in a Handicap ?? or have I - Just - "Got it Wrong" ?? tc |
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Oh Gawd !
- I "Promise" - I shall - "Crunch some Numbers" !!! - tomorrow !! tc |
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Epi.
Look back a long way to some posts by Guest, raffingora and Fulham, they WILL help. TC. "lets have" there ya go demanding again, I will be honest and say that it is this kind of attitude that is stopping others putting up their thoughts, me included. For those who have been fortunate enough to reach the ultimate conclusion they used the old examples, so why are you so different?. "if you don't get your posts in order then some very old fashioned austrailian - (yes Thats my spelling) - "expresions" are going to come your way !!....Go play with yer books sonny. " JIB. (Judge & Jury) I have no reason to establish anything, to anyone, and no I am not an old member. I only found this site some weeks ago and took the trouble to read virtually all the postings from the begining. It was my intention (and I feel that I am not on my own, when I say that help would have been more forthcoming but for some). |
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Tc
Tis only opinion You might assume, and probably expect the official ratings and Phill Bull's much respected Timeform to show a high degree of uniformity, but this is not the case. - - Take just one example, the two Derby winners - and you can't get better class than that - Henbit and Blakeney. The official figures show the latter to be 81b superior, but Timeform go completely opposite making Henbit 71b better. 'Over a stone difference which makes nonsense of calculations. Conclusion . regard ratings only as a guide in association with other factors. Same in handicaps The Official handicapper has all the horses weighted to finish together Based on his calculations Somebody elses calculations may find (in his opinon) That the Official Handicapper has in fact got it wrong and one of the horses should be carrying 8lb more than has been allotted = 8lb well in According to him any way |
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JIB.
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