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This thread is about VDW, not alternative strategies. The judgement is based also on yesterday's debate about betting on unproven horses and Guest's one-liner is taken in conjunction with Fulham's remarks about Guest's betting behaviour. In my opinion I have made more positive contributions to this thread than anyone else, if you cant see that unlucky.
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Epiglotis
now you are on a wind up more positive contributions than anyone else,That deserves a massive LOL.And incidently wild spice unseated quite early on in the race,So don't try and make excuses for being prem. |
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Gilly
Anybody can criticise but to do that they must have at least a little bit of knowledge of what they are being critical about,Epiglotis has no knowledge of vdw at all,I suggest you go through 555 pages before you pass comment. ![]() |
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Nessie
I will keep putting horses up for evaluation Not every day though, that is the only way i can help you'll get there eventually. ![]() |
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I`ve just spent an enjoyable 20 minutes catching up here, at times it`s threatened to be entertaining. It`s fairly obvious there`s a few bobs worth of education with this threads posters.
Now, I couldn`t give a rats arse about any missing bloody link or anything dutch for that matter but what does puzzle me is why on earth would anybody take any notice of Investor much less encourage him? |
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Jib
You really haven't got the slightest clue,I bet Guest has a really good laugh when he sees posts such as the one's you put up. |
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lll
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Investor
Are you suggesting that Wild Spice was the correct decision? Why do these correct bets keep losing? |
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Determined.
I have checked 35 VDW selections from 18/2/78 to 2/5/81 (all the form books I have) for winning horses carrying more weight LTO with a rise in class for its present race. from 5 chases 2 as above. from 4 Hcp ch 1 as above. from 2 hdl 0 as above. from 4 Hcp hdl 1 as above. from 6 flat 3 as above. from 13 Hcp flat 0 as above. Hope this is some help. regards Bumper. |
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Investor,
You are making presumptions. You don’t know if I have or haven’t already gone through the whole of this thread. My days are now spent either watching racing, studying racing, or reading about racing. I have a lot of time on my hands. Secondly, what makes you think that I don’t know more than you or anyone else on this thread about VDW, and having the knowledge, know its failings? |
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Epiglotis
Why not work it out for yourself,Afterall you must be one of them contributors who have learnt the methods through a crystal ball. |
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So often on this thread I see the great and the good being lectured too by two cells, do you think perhaps they recently doubled?
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Gilly
of course i am being presumptious,Enlighten me or are you just joining in with the neg heads.I will continue to give you a smiley for the time being. ![]() |
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Never in the field of internet forums,
has one man been so derided, by so many and so often, without catching on. |
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lll
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lll
slow down for christ's sake 3,311 ![]() |
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re the 8.15 Pontefract, I agree that at first sight Welsh Diva looks to have a very good chance, a chance in no way diminished by Aldora's performance on Friday. And she did beat Monturani by a fair distance less than three weeks ago, with the same weight differential as today. A factor that would trouble me, though, was that that race was Welsh Diva'a third run of the season and she could reasonably be assumed to be at peak fitness. By contrast, Monturani was having her first run for nearly a year, and can reasonably be expected to have come on more for the run than Welsh Diva. It is also of interest that (just like on their last run), relative to Monturani, Welsh Diva is 7lb worse off than on handicap terms. In sum, I share Guest's view that, while Welsh Diva has a decent chance, things are not clear-cut. While she is the most likely winner, should Monturani reverse placings I wouldn't fall off my chair in surprise. Bearing in mind that there are other horses than cannot be ignored, at the forecast 11/4 Welsh Diva holds no attraction for me. Good luck if you bet. III Did you hear Michael Howard's response to the Chancellor's statement on the Euro? As complete and accomplished a demolition job on a government statement as I've heard. He (Howard) always struck me as a bit of a prat when Home Secretary (but there again, on reflection almost all Home Secretaries, our current one included, seem prat-like - perhaps it's an almost inevitable consequence of the difficulties of the portfolio). |
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Way too early to say in the race, but given the result it looks like an opportunity missed for Wild Spice. Anyone who has read the books thoroughly should know that VDW gave a slightly different method for chases which involved the most valuable handicap and non handicap chases for the day. Wild Spice was the only qualifier along with being the class/form horse.
Just out of interest Epi, if Wild Spice had no chance, who was the horse for you in the race. It might seem obvious to most, though blatantly not to some, that there is a big difference between unseating rider at half way and finishing the race down the field. JIB - Tony McCoy is not a factor I place much emphasis on as a workman is only as good as his tools. I notice you place a lot of emphasis on breeding and stats, but all that is useless unless the horse has the class and form to back the stats up. The winners that don't have these factors readily identifiable beforehand are usually surprises to all concerned. A jockeys strike rate or a trainers for that matter is of little use unless set aside the horses involved and the races they ran in and the class they ran in, etc,etc. That concept is to my mind both simple and logical. |
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