Barney and JIB cool it please.

No member is entitled to be abusive to a fellow member on the Gummy Forum you both have yellow cards.

Post your personal arguement on the Off Topic thread and not on here.

Gummy

Fri, Sept 3.

Yet again I cannot see my idea of a pure VDW selection this morning, but here's my attempt to get near:

420 Haydock

Mr Tambourine Man
Ocean Avenue
Desert Island Disc

Not very precise and certainly not my cup of tea.

Over to the experts, but may I just say that
JIB's selection, Sahaat, in the F4 Chepstow claimer, would be more like a bet to my taste.
EW, of course.

Here's betbetter's ratings for two races under discussion:

03/09/2004 - Chepstow - 2.50
Russell Reynolds Claiming Stakes (Class F) (3yo+) (1m 4f 23yds) (13 Runners)

Forbearing
48

Banningham Blaze
42

On Cloud Nine
30

Lyrical Girl
23

Rolex Free
23

Sahaat
18

Mr Whizz
18

Dash For Glory
15

Tweed
13

Our Imperial Bay
10

Black Legend
7

Keltic Rainbow
3

Zarneeta
3



03/09/2004 - Kempton - 4.20
Rukba UBS Laing And Cruickshank Handicap (Class D) (3yo+,0-85) (1m 4f) (10 Runners)

Ocean Avenue
57

Regal Setting
54

Mr Tambourine Man
51

Dovedon Hero
41

Desert Island Disc
39

Blaze Of Colour
36

Manorson
27

Albavilla
18

Leighton
16

Trueno
6

Hmmm, that's well spaced out, anyway!

Aaagh!

The race I suggested may not qualify!

it appears to be less than the old C class.

Oh well, I thought it was the most expensive of the day, so it may be OK as a guinea pig for analysis.

garstonf -

yes I have wonderd that - so I am continuing for another 400 races - as I said , I won't be posting up the daily results - it is very time consuming - but the records are being kept in exactly the same manner - and the final anaysis will follow the same lines of this one .


Have you any opinions regarding the Class breakdowns on page 697 - I think they show some interesting trends !!!

tc

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Originally posted by Barney:
Newmembers,

bear in mind that this is the "acceptable" face of this thread. The personal abuse and attacks often extended to three or four pages in length, which "gummy", to be fair to him, edited out on numerous occasions, at times though he could not cope with the onslaught, hence the upping sticks.

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Just thought I'd bring this up again to remind the author of his delicate sensitivities.

Quiet !!! - i'nnit !

johnd - have you had time to look at the Class breakdown of the VDW consistancy figs that you asked for ?? - page 697


tc

Seanrua -

Thanks for drawing attention to the Betbetter - ratings !

They are a great - "Tool" !!



tc

Fulham's a ****, as the shit ain't a member I'm treading safe turf.

I had hoped that Le Petomane had been more popular. Obviously the world is becoming less vulgar.

Tc
Hadn't forgotten, busy at the moment, will reply shortly.

maybe the problem with the first 5 in the betting thing,is that the odds complilers are only human and make mistakes,surely 14-1 mctavish in the 1-35 is one of them?

Just to let the traditionalists know that anotherof my 'piss take' horses has just won at 10/1.

strange joke

Jib
Why was Tante Rose a "piss take" vdw said that a majority of races go to the form horses and he was certainly one of them,Not the c/f but nevertheless a form horse.

ijb
Just a post script to my last post Mamool c/f Satchem c/f With reason C/f Defining (roushayd type) with Mamool being probably the best propositon.

well done jib,nice one
mctavish failed miserably

Thanks Greg!

However With Reason was a Donkey Register horse too but I said it was a 'no bet' because of the distance!

So not so clever aftertall!

VDW doesn't make much mention of "Top Jockeys" - but surely today at Kempton - Demonstrates - the "Folly" - of betting against them !!

Calcutta 235Y is well in at the weights and favoured by tomorrows conditions.